G4-optimized Firefox 1.5 released

Firefox G4For those of you with G4 processors and feeling left out of the G5-optimized Firefox build goodliness, I now have a G4-optimized Firefox 1.5 build just for you.

If you’re not sure what kind of processor you have in your mac (and really, who keeps track of these things? Well, besides me, that is), chances are if you bought your mac in mid- to late 2001 or later you’re golden. To confirm for sure, check out this handy guide. If your processor is a G4 and the version number is 7450 or higher, you can run this build.

(Edited: As far as I know these builds will work as expected with nearly any G4 processor. Only the earliest processors (the first run of G4-enabled PowerBooks and PowerMacs, I think) may not work. But give it a try anyway as I haven’t heard of any issues yet.)

(Note: If you’re using a machine with a G5 processor, you’ll want to check out the G5-optimized Firefox build instead.)

Download link removed - there is a newer release available

As usual, this build comes with a slightly different icon and Philippe Wittenberg’s “pretty” form widgets. To answer the #1 question I keep receiving about this builds: the reason the application is called “DeerPark” and the icon is different than the official Firefox release is because both the Firefox name and icon are restricted to just official releases.

If you’re looking for Firefox 1.5-compatible extensions, I have a small list of extensions that I’ve tweaked to work with the new release.

Enjoy!

Update (Dec. 4th, 1:30 EST): I just built a new version of Firefox 1.5 with support for <canvas> as requested by quite a few people. I’m not doing requests here, but this should have been turned on when I originally ran the build, but I forgot. If you pull down a new copy from the link above you’ll get the new version.

In case you didn’t know about it, there’s also an RSS feed specifically for Mozilla / Firefox posts that includes these builds, in case you wanted to know when new builds and such are posted.

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1 | gerardiki Author Profile Page said on December 1, 2005 3:07 PM

oooh, i think i'm gonna likey this. thanks!

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2 | K. Jenkins said on December 1, 2005 3:17 PM

This is a very nice site. I peeked at the source code of this page, and thoroughly enjoyed your style of commenting, Thanks for a friendly and entertaining experience.

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3 | Brian said on December 1, 2005 4:10 PM

Looking forward to giving this a try.

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4 | Poppy said on December 1, 2005 4:45 PM

Fails to launch bacause "libstdc++.6.dylib" could not be found.

This library is present if you have installed DevTools. It is also present if you are running 10.3.9 or newer.

Unfortunately, I'm running 10.3.5 (uptime 6 mos - It ain't broke, so I'm not gonna fis it!) and I don't want to install 500 mb of stuff I'll never use.

Does anyone know how to get the required libraries short of installing DevTools? Note: I am NOT a programmer.

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5 | Davide said on December 1, 2005 5:03 PM

Just successfully installed on my PowerBook G4 (PowerPC,G4 - 1.1). Apparently faster than the standard release.

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6 | Joe said on December 1, 2005 6:02 PM

Would it be too much to ask for a G4 build optimized for the older 7400/7410 processors? I have a "Yikes" 400 MHz G4 tower (7400)and a slot-load iMac I had upgraded to a 500 MHz 7410. These old machines need all the help they can get, an optimized Firefox would sure be great!

Thanks!

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7 | Neil said on December 1, 2005 6:21 PM

Nice job! This is based off of the final release version and not the Beta, right?

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8 | Neil replies: (December 1, 2005 6:32 PM)

Yes, this requires 10.3.9 or higher. Sorry. This is a release build, yes. And sorry, I can't build a 7400 version as I don't own a machine with that processor.

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9 | AMSR said on December 1, 2005 6:41 PM

You say 7450 or higher. What about the powerbooks that have 7447 CPUs? Is that likely to see a benifit from this build?

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10 | loni said on December 1, 2005 8:05 PM

Can you build one for the 7410?

Nice site!

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11 | infinitespecter said on December 1, 2005 9:07 PM

Am I to understand that the only PowerBooks supported by this are the old 667 15"- the 1Ghz 17"? Newer PowerBooks use the 7447 instead of the 7450.

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12 | Neil replies: (December 1, 2005 9:29 PM)

Should work with the 7447's, but I'm not positive as I don't have one of those models. As far as understand it this should work with any processor from the 667 to the current models.

Loni - as I mentioned earlier, I can only build for the machines that I own, and I only own a Powerbook with a 7450 in it. Sorry.

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13 | Joe said on December 2, 2005 12:28 AM

Not to be rude, but why can't you put -mcpu=7400 and -mtune=7400 in your CFLAGS? Testing problems? Liability issues? You can't use -fast with 7400 but you can still use -O3 and many of the other performance related flags.

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14 | Neil replies: (December 2, 2005 12:29 AM)

Sorry, Joe, but I'm not going to build and post something I can't test.

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15 | Quang Minh said on December 2, 2005 2:05 AM

Deerpark seems to work better for FF 1.5 in my iBook G4, thank u very much :) Nice site

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16 | Sab said on December 2, 2005 4:12 AM

I feel I am a little slow here, have been using Firefox just for three months. I have a G4PowerBook with the 867 Mhz processor. Is this release for me? And why?
Thanks

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17 | Darren Cornwell said on December 2, 2005 5:01 AM

God, leave the poor guy alone, if he doesn't want to do a new build (which he can't test) then leave him alone. It always the same, someone brings out a work of love, effort and sweat to please the masses, release it and then everyone starts to winge. Be thankful and never look a gifthorse in the mouth.

Thanks for all you hard work, works like a charm on my new 12" PB and the old 17". [DC]

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18 | Joel Pan said on December 2, 2005 5:07 AM

Running without problems (so far) on a Mac Mini (G4 7447).

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19 | connyman said on December 2, 2005 7:05 AM

does one know this version also with others spoke to get or re-tool (e.g. German)?

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20 | Chris said on December 2, 2005 11:01 AM

For those on older G4s for G3s, check out ElFurbe's builds: http://www.furbism.com/firefoxmac/

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21 | Chris Fonnesbeck said on December 2, 2005 11:07 AM

Can you post your optimized .mozconfig? I'd like to have a go at compiling it myself.

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22 | Loren said on December 2, 2005 11:48 AM

I've been using your 1.07 (and earlier) builds for some time. Thank you very much for all your trouble.

It seems that CTRL-Tab navigation through tabs doesn't work any more (it switches between the location bar and the web page; and CTRL-Shift-Tab doesn't do anything). Is this something special about your build? Is it possible to restore the old behaviour?

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23 | Aaron said on December 2, 2005 8:43 PM

Anyone know of an easy way to import my bookmarks from Camino to Deer Park?

I'm really enjoying Deer Park, but this one little thing is holding up my transition! >.>

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24 | John said on December 3, 2005 12:16 AM

Thanks for all your hard work! This build runs great on my PowerBook 17 (1.67 GHz)- definitely faster and more responsive than the official 1.5 release! Thanks!

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25 | Joe said on December 3, 2005 1:49 AM

Holy crap! That's quite an improvement. Thanks very much.

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26 | Nagualito said on December 3, 2005 11:39 PM

10.3.9
17" Powerbook 1Ghz

Obviously I am running a G4
but I see no difference at all.
However, both as rocket sleds
compared to Safari.

Nag -

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27 | Gabriel said on December 4, 2005 12:01 AM

Thanks for building this! I can't wait to try it out.

To further promote Firefox we've created a website that is collecting 1,000,001 reasons to switch to Firefox that regular people will be able to understand - http://thebetterbrowser.com

Check it out and add your own reasons for switching (although you've actually created builds of Firefox, so that pretty much puts you into the l33t Firefoxer category anyways... :))

Thanks again,
Gabriel

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28 | anon said on December 4, 2005 12:48 AM

What does optimizing for the G4 do? What do you change, and what improvements should one see?

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29 | sendark said on December 4, 2005 1:01 AM

Killer! thanks for this version, i can notice the difference rendering complex pages, and the whole app is much more responsive than the non-g4 optimized one. And it is great that all your settings and bookmarks are kept!!

Im running it on a powerbook 15 inch double layer (high resolution) and its great!

Cheers!!

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30 | Ted Mielczarek said on December 4, 2005 1:35 AM

Hi,

Judging from an email I've received, you may not have enabled canvas support in your build. The appropriate build flag would be --enable-canvas (you can check by going to about:buildconfig). Without this, people won't be able to use fun extensions like Tab Preview ( http://ted.mielczarek.org/code/mozilla/tabpreview/ ).

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31 | steve said on December 4, 2005 2:34 AM

ah excellent!!! many thanks :-)

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32 | bobo chan said on December 4, 2005 5:39 AM

Appreciate all the hard work. Is this release convas-enabled? I'd like to able to use extensions such as Tab Preview which is just so handy if you tab around.

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33 | Ben said on December 4, 2005 6:04 AM

Well, you certainly seem to have sped it up over the normal Firefox build, nice one.
However (and this is to whoever ports it, not you), you STILL can't middle-click on quickbar folders to open them in tabs. Why the hell they removed this functionality I have NO idea. Anyone who is intelligent enough to want to use Firefox on their mac is bound to be using a 3-button mouse, so why the hell did they remove it.
Oh well, back to Safari I go, where you CAN middle-click on quickbar folders.

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34 | Jure said on December 4, 2005 6:25 AM

Nice work. Any chance of optimized thunderbird builds?

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35 | andras said on December 4, 2005 8:38 AM

This build is significantly more stable on my powerbook than the plain Firefox 1.5 release, which is great. I have noticed that I can't cmd-q to kill the app, and I get flakey performance with clear http auth.

Has anyone else noticed either of these problems? It could just be my system (needs to be reinstalled) but I thought I'd see whether or not these are common problems out there.

Thanks.
Andras

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36 | Eric said on December 4, 2005 9:29 AM

The only problem I see, is the known problem of firefox 1.5 completely hogging the CPU (goes up to 100% usage) when scrolling, or just by holding down the mouse button while inside the browser window.
http://digg.com/technology/Firefox_Bug_Causes_100_CPU_Usage_on_Mac_OS_X
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141710
Open up activity monitor and see for yourself. I don't mean to burst any bubbles, but especially for laptop users, this can eat away your battery life quickly, and also cause some cooling issues.
But i would say nice work on the G4 optimized, this app is alot more responsive than the standard release, and hopefully this bug will be fixed on the Mozilla side very soon, then maybe a new build of this can be released, then it will be the far superior browser for anyone with a G4.

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37 | Neil replies: (December 4, 2005 10:53 AM)

Shoot. I forgot to enable the canvas in this build - it wasn't stable until now so I had it disabled in my mozconfig file. I'll look into respinning the release with this enabled.

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38 | Neil replies: (December 4, 2005 1:38 PM)

Okay, a new build is up that has <canvas> turned on.

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39 | maique madeira said on December 4, 2005 3:31 PM

thanks a lot for this build.

it seems to work a bit faster than 'regular' firefox.
i noticed a slight increase in temperature when using the pre-canvas version but now it seems to have come back down.
i have no idea if the two facts are connected.

nice work.

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40 | Dave said on December 4, 2005 7:39 PM

thanks! excellent work, much appreciated

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41 | Jamie said on December 4, 2005 8:04 PM

Thanks so much for this. I can't believe how much faster the G4 build is!

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42 | Lane said on December 4, 2005 10:21 PM

I would like to help by building a version on my HD 15" Powerbook. Is there anything I need aside from Xcode? What kind of optimizations should I be concerned with applying?

Can you email me if you are interested in helping me .

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43 | Mike R said on December 5, 2005 1:28 AM

I downloaded this, sort of expecting the speed increase to be "not noticable", like my friend who overclocks his stuff for a few extra frames per second. Like anyone can tell the difference.

But, I gave it a shot anyway and I have to say WOW!! BIG difference on the Mini. Immediately noticeable. In fact, the standard Firefox seems like a horrible pig now.

Thanks for this.

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44 | Alex said on December 5, 2005 2:36 AM

Fantastic! Many thanks for all your hard work on this, the application responds much better than the unoptimized FF 1.5 release on the two G4s I've tried.

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45 | Joe said on December 5, 2005 9:38 AM

What command line options did you use ... i.e. if I want to compile my own that is optimized for G4 what should I type?
gcc ....

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46 | Bruce said on December 6, 2005 2:10 AM

I love the new speed, but I'm noticing that the page down function doesn't work. I use this a lot. Is there a setting somewhere that I've missed to enable it? Anyway - thanks for the speed bump, it's very much appreciated!

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47 | mike said on December 7, 2005 12:01 PM

really awesome, but the tab preview extension and foxpose extension doesn't seem to work with this build. it works fine in the regular firefox 1.5 release

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48 | James said on December 8, 2005 6:48 PM

Thank you very much for this.

First of all it really does seem very much nippier than the official build, and secondly it gets rid of one of the Firefox quirks that really irritated me; that you could not open a new Firefox window while your existing window was minimised. Now the only thing I really miss from Safari is having access to the built in OSX spellcheck.

Great work.

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49 | DMBfan said on December 8, 2005 10:56 PM

This is faster, but I seem to be having problems with downloads - they are never complete, and they get renames a random file name...anyone else having this problem?

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50 | Udon said on December 9, 2005 5:36 PM

Some problems on my Mac mini (1.42 GHz). No speed difference. Also destroyed my previous Firefox 1.5 installation (no I did not install over it or anything like that). Firefox just did not want to start again. Then I uninstalled both Deer Park and the "normal 1.5". Normal Firefox works fine again after reinstalling it. I'm slightly confused. Does Deer Park alter my personal settings so much? I'll continue using the normal distribution on my Mac mini. Hope my feedback is useful. Keep up the good work.

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51 | jeanine barone said on December 11, 2005 2:20 PM

I just installed Deer Park but each time I open it up I get a message saying "cannot open because of chrome registration failure." Then eventually it opens anyway. Any ideas what this means and what can I do?

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52 | Neil Munn said on December 13, 2005 2:49 PM

Has anyone else noticed that this is an alpha of Firefox 1.5? Deer Park was released about February time.

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53 | Neil replies: (December 13, 2005 3:02 PM)

Actually, this is the release version. As I've explained earlier, the Firefox branding is restricted to only official releases from the Mozilla group. Any non-official build from the Firefox 1.5 source code (including this) will use "DeerPark" instead.

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54 | David Smith said on December 14, 2005 2:41 AM

Works a treat!

Cheers mate!

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55 | Thorir Jonsson said on December 14, 2005 4:58 AM

Hi,

As with Firefox 1,5, I am not able to run WebCT flawlessly. On the sidebar to the left, I only get the WebCT icons, not the text with the names of the icons. The sidebar WevCT does not expand fully as in Firefox before ver. 1.5.

Regards, - Thorir J

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56 | bongoman said on December 15, 2005 9:03 PM

Any way to get the grApple themes to work with this? At present they are incompatible.

Many thanks

bongoman

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57 | Neil replies: (December 15, 2005 9:16 PM)

Bongoman - the grApple themes work just fine here. Maybe you have a corrupted profile?

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58 | Marcus Kazmierczak said on December 19, 2005 1:13 PM

I'm using it on a Powerbook G4 500mhz, which is the first run of the Titantium PowerBooks, circa 2001. I don't know the CPU model number, System Profiler says:
PowerPC G4 (11.3)

No problems so far.

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59 | Guillermo said on December 19, 2005 8:40 PM

The build I downloaded doesn't have the "G4" in the icon. What gives? Great job, though. Definitely feels faster.

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60 | Guillermo said on December 19, 2005 8:43 PM

Never Mind. The icon was different only in the dmg. It showed once I copied it to the Applications folder. You can delete my previous post.

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61 | matteo said on December 20, 2005 3:25 PM

works great on my powerbook 12" 1.5 -- thanks!
wonder if you'd ever do the thunderbird mail program too? same starting codebase as firefox (though still at v1.07)

thanks again!

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62 | Ben Margolin said on December 20, 2005 3:34 PM

Thanks for this, works nicely on my Mini. Not a huge performance improvement noticeable so far, but certain things at least seem slightly snappier (tab nav, bookmark management so far). And the nicer form l&f is very welcome. Thanks!

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63 | Jeff said on December 23, 2005 1:11 AM

Fast as stink!

The lazy among us don't have to sweat the compile flags.

Thanks very much.

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64 | Alexandre said on January 9, 2006 10:31 PM

This is awesome! So much faster!

Alexandre

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65 | Fang Jin said on January 15, 2006 3:09 PM

it's faster than the regular firefox 1.5 on my G4 powerbook, but it's still lot slower than opera 8.5, ex. for www.apple.com

firefox 9s
G4 optimised 8s
Opera 5s

p.s they are tested after clearing the cache

read this acticle if you don't believe it, http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html

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66 | Thankful said on January 17, 2006 11:26 PM

Thanks for the builds! Any chance you could do a Thunderbird 1.5 G4/G5 build?

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67 | Marc said on February 1, 2006 10:11 PM

Looks like Firefox 1.5.0.1 is out.

http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/releases/1.5.0.1.html

Any chance that we can get a G4 optimized build of that?

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68 | linh said on February 19, 2006 9:50 AM

I just found a possible fix for "page up/page down" not working. You will need to turn off caret browsing in firefox by either:
1. toggle it with F7
2. goto Firefox > Preferences > Advanced > General Tab > "uncheck" the "allow text to be selected with the keyboard" option

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69 | Jijoe Vurghese said on April 19, 2006 11:14 AM

Any chance of getting a G4 optimized build of the recently released Firefox 1.5.0.2?

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70 | jijoe said on May 4, 2006 12:37 AM

Any chance of getting a Firefox 1.5.0.3 build with Firefoxy widgets :p

Thanks in advance

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71 | Sohbet said on April 27, 2008 3:08 PM

Never Mind. The icon was different only in the dmg. It showed once I copied it to the Applications folder. You can delete my previous post.

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